Adam Wheelock Boisvert (wheloc) wrote,

Barton Fink

I didn't hear of The Coen Brothers until Fargo came out, and I didn't like Fargo, so I assumed I didn't like The Coen Brothers.

Not liking Fargo was an interesting experience. I watched it with a bunch of people, and assumed they were all as bored as I was by the film. But no, they all ranted and raved about how good it was. I wasn't sure why the brothers made the film, much less why everyone enjoyed it so; eventually I concluded it was supposed to be a comedy (right?), but I just didn't get the joke.

Of course, my not liking The Coen Brothers was largly based on ignorance, since at that point they'd made two of my favorite films (The Hudsucker Proxy and Miller's Crossing). Not knowing this, however, I persisted in not espicially liking 'em, or at least not liking them as much as everyone else. Raising Arizona and The Big Lebowski did not impress me enough to change my mind (though I found them far more amusing then Fargo). I persisted in my ignorance until I saw O Brother, Where Art Thou?, which did impress me at least enough to do an imdb search and find out what else they'd done.

Anyway, all this is really just prelude to last night, when I watched Barton Fink

I dunno how I feel about the film. I mean, it was obviously an excellent peice of cinima. It had good acting, good direction, very good sound; it was quite clever and had very interesting things to say about both art and artists. I'm just not sure I enjoyed it.

It was a very ambitious, which might be part of the problem. I could tell (I think) what they were trying to do, but it just didn't work for me. The title character (Barton Fink) was interesting, but was too intellectualized to write the sort of script he wanted, hence he had writers block and was unable to progress. Thus was paralleled by the first half of the film, which was also interesting but unable to progress past a simple intellectualize excercise.

In both cases, the delemma was solved by the introduction of a shotgun weilding maniac. It shocked Barton into looking at his script in a new light, and it was supposed to shock the reader into looking at the film in a new light. The problem was, I wasn't in the least bit shocked. The DVD starts with an image of John Goodman running through a burning hallway, carrying a shotgun. From the moment I saw him, I was expecting foul play.

What I'm curious is..

(A)...did the theatrical version have a similar beginning and (if not)...

(B)...did people who saw it in a theater then not see his turn of character comming, and so were shocked into enjoying the film more?

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therck

July 21 2005, 22:39:56 UTC 7 years ago

You're not the only one who didn't enjoy Fargo and The Big Lebowski (I haven't seen the other films you list). When I say so, people do look at me like I'm crazy, so I know what you mean about that.

wheloc

July 22 2005, 00:36:09 UTC 7 years ago

Remember the Far Side comic about the "People Who Didn't Like Dances With Wolves" convention? I feel like that sometimes :)

speicus

July 21 2005, 23:23:27 UTC 7 years ago

Yeah, that DVD intro is a huge spoily thing and it pisses me off that they did that. I remember being surprised (though suspecting) when I first saw the film, but I don't remember if I didn't see that opening or just didn't pay attention to it.

I saw it again recently and was pleased that I still enjoyed it and that new or forgotten layers of the movie presented themselves to me. For instance, I think that Barton is still a bad writer at the end of the movie, which kind of busts your interpretation above.

wheloc

July 22 2005, 00:53:28 UTC 7 years ago

Naw... I just said his realization of Charlie's character made him look at his writing in a new light... I didn't say it was a good light. Likewise, I'm not sure the shock necessarily causes the audience to look at the film in the "correct" light (if there can be such a thing). I'm not sure the film condones the use of adding a shotgun wielding maniac as a narrative device. In fact, I suspect it is derogitory towards many of the narrative devices it employs (or is that trite).

The more I think about it, however, the more I liked the wacky sounds effects.

speicus

July 22 2005, 12:50:16 UTC 7 years ago

I really like the bell on the hotel front desk.

empresskatums

July 22 2005, 01:39:29 UTC 7 years ago

Oh, lovely, a Coen Brothers post!

First of all, I am totally mystified by Fargo's popularity and success - that said, I am absolutely addicted to that film. If I have an hour and a half free, I'll pop it in. I've been known to watch it twice in a row. I can't explain it.

If you couldn't tell by the icon, I'm also a big fan of Lebowski. In fact, I've been a fan of everything the Coens have done - perhaps with the exception of The Ladykillers, which had good moments but wasn't too thrilling overall.

But I love Barton Fink, because I think I could dissect it for hours. It took me a few times through to get into it. I'm still not sure what they were trying to do. (What did you think they were trying to do?) All I know is that it has enough intriguing details to merit repeated viewings... And it's interesting to discuss with other people, because everyone has a different reaction. From the first time I saw it, I thought it was apparent that Charlie was just a fractured part of Barton's psyche - but everyone thinks I'm crazy. So there you are.

As I was 8 at the time, I didn't see it in the theater, but my dad reports that Yes, the twist was a complete shock to him, so much so that it became hopelessly confusing, he didn't see a point to it, and he hasn't watched it since. Oh well.